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  1. Sounds like an interesting read. I’ll have to see if my library carries it. (have to cut back on expences.)

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 20, 2012 @ 9:11 am - December 20, 2012

  2. Livewire, once it is fully released the price for the e-book will be about $6. I read the eARC and finished it off the other day. I was going to tweet Bruce to ask if he or Dan had read this yet, but got too busy at work and it fell out of my brain.
    For a full take on Nat read the Darkship Thieves, and Renegades as well. Sarah references a book to come in this one with those characters as well. Sarah has some 1000 years of history planned out for books in this universe.

    Comment by JP Kalishek — December 20, 2012 @ 10:30 am - December 20, 2012

  3. I’ll have to check it out. Hopefully any intimate scenes don’t fall in the “Need a copy of Grey’s anatomy to figure out what they’re doing.” I’ve found in Sci-fi. Wild Cards was so bad I just skipped those scenes. :P

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 20, 2012 @ 10:48 am - December 20, 2012

  4. [...] AT GAY PATRIOT, A REVIEW of Sarah Hoyt’s A Few Good Men. [...]

    Pingback by Instapundit » Blog Archive » AT GAY PATRIOT, A REVIEW of Sarah Hoyt’s A Few Good Men. Plus, a fitness bonus! “After receiving… — December 20, 2012 @ 10:54 am - December 20, 2012

  5. Nothing you would worry about in giving the book to a teen or even a smart tweener. The character is gay, and that is mostly incidental.

    also if one is not gay and is worried they’d be put off because of it … no, just read it and it fills in some stuff referred to in her other books.

    Comment by JP Kalishek — December 20, 2012 @ 11:18 am - December 20, 2012

  6. Cool. It’s not the ‘icky gay sex’ thing. It’s the ‘yawn, ok two people having sex, get back to the plot’ thing :-)

    I watched Torchwood, Miracle Day and was unscarred after all.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 20, 2012 @ 11:58 am - December 20, 2012

  7. Live, did you ever see the Torchwood episode “Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang?” It had more scenes of dudes making out than that MTV show, “Dudes Making Out.”

    Comment by V the K — December 20, 2012 @ 12:21 pm - December 20, 2012

  8. And to note, as per JP’s comment (#5), the hero’s sexuality is incidental to his character. And there is, as per The_Livewires’s comment #3, no graphic description of sex scenes.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — December 20, 2012 @ 12:25 pm - December 20, 2012

  9. re#6 My classroom is one of the gathering areas for our GLBT et. kids at lunch and when one of kids said “that is way gay” i asked him “what the hell?” and he told me, not the cool kind of gay where you like guys but the weird kind where you like “my little pony”..for some reason it restored my faith in my kids

    Comment by Burninghiram (Piper) — December 20, 2012 @ 12:40 pm - December 20, 2012

  10. @V that was one of Donna’s favourite episodes actually.

    And there was more than kissing in Miracle Day.

    So much that RTD apologized for Jack just being with men, since it was a first look for many Americans at Torchwood and Jack. I quipped in the comments, “Just give us large amounts of Eve Myles nudity in the next one and we’ll call it even.”

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 20, 2012 @ 1:18 pm - December 20, 2012

  11. On a related note, got my first royalty check from my eBooks today. Not a lot of money, but still…. people paying to read my work. Teh Awesome!

    Comment by V the K — December 20, 2012 @ 8:55 pm - December 20, 2012

  12. Sounds like my kind of reading.
    Right now I’m not buying a thing; getting ready to move out of California.
    But when I’m settled in Utah I will definitely pick this book up.
    If it is as good as the review, I’ll be getting more from Sarah A, Hoyt, too.
    Thanks.

    Comment by Nan G — December 20, 2012 @ 9:00 pm - December 20, 2012

  13. Dan —

    You READ when you work out??!?!?
    Does this happen anywhere else? I have not seen this before.

    Comment by mike — December 20, 2012 @ 9:18 pm - December 20, 2012

  14. Great review will have to check it out. The only other mainstream SF novel I can recall with an overtly gay protagonist is “Ethan of Athos” by Bujold. Again his sexuality is purely incidental (although essential to the plot).

    Comment by Jhon Doh — December 21, 2012 @ 6:10 am - December 21, 2012

  15. It’s probably just as well that I haven’t jumped into this thread (up to now) to ask if she wrote the hero as a top or bottom.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 21, 2012 @ 1:40 pm - December 21, 2012

  16. That would be “Telepaths Don’t Need Safewords,” ILC.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 21, 2012 @ 1:47 pm - December 21, 2012

  17. When I did my NaNoWriMo project, I made two deliberate choices with gay characters. 1.) I had a subplot involving a gay character and deliberately limited it to <5% of the total book, just to see if that amount of Teh Ghey overwhelmed the rest of the book. 2.) Decided one of my major characters was gay, but never explicitly revealed it, just to see if it made me write him any differently.

    Comment by V the K — December 21, 2012 @ 3:22 pm - December 21, 2012

  18. Interesting points, V.

    I know Mercedes Lackey’s Last Herald Mage series caught some attention because Vanyel was gay. Didn’t matter to me, and it was funny that his morals kept him more celebate than a lot of the straight characters in her other books.

    In the Dresden Files, it was a bit of fun at Harry’s expence that his (half) brother’s feeding methods made being a hair dresser ideal for non-lethal feeding, and since he and Harry were living together and no one knew they were brothers, Thomas’ clientel thought they were gay.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 21, 2012 @ 3:33 pm - December 21, 2012

  19. In my ‘Worlds Apart’ series, I’ve kept the relationship between David and Trajan very deliberately ambiguous because ‘Are they, or aren’t they?’ is so much more interesting.

    Comment by V the K — December 21, 2012 @ 6:19 pm - December 21, 2012

  20. 1. If the main character’s homosexuality is “incidental”, why make him gay in the first place?

    2.”… the cool kind of gay…” What’s so cool about being gay?

    3. “On a related note, got my first royalty check from my eBooks today. Not a lot of money, but still…. people paying to read my work. Teh Awesome!” V the K is a writer? Now THAT’S kool! And congrats on the checks, V!

    Comment by Seane-Anna — December 22, 2012 @ 10:42 am - December 22, 2012

  21. 1. If the main character’s homosexuality is “incidental”, why make him gay in the first place?

    Thanks for the congrats. I can’t speak for everybody who writes, but I try to build my characters with layers of complexity, and they’ll have a lot of incidental characteristics some of which don’t even figure into the plot, but make the characters more multi-dimensional.

    Comment by V the K — December 22, 2012 @ 12:20 pm - December 22, 2012

  22. Seane-Anna,

    For the same reason you make a character straight, or left handed or blond… it’s an aspect of the character which colours his worldview.

    If Harry Dresden wasn’t straight, the tension between him and his apprentice Molly wouldn’t be an issue, but it would lead to all sorts of Foe-yay between him and Nicodemeus.

    If Vanyel Askeveron wasn’t Shay’ch, then he’d not have the upbringing he has.

    If either Inego or the Man in Black were really left handed, the duel would have ended quicker.

    [insert creepy paedophile vibe]If Dumbledore had been straight, Herminoe might have been the hero… :P

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 24, 2012 @ 8:43 am - December 24, 2012

  23. Forgot. If John Carter had been blond, everyone would have assumed he was a Thern. Then the opposite for Carson Napier.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 24, 2012 @ 8:44 am - December 24, 2012

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