It takes actual evidence for there to be a long lived scandal

The letters and questionnaires sent by the IRS are what is called “actual evidence”. We have actual evidence that the IRS was asking the most detailed possible questions about things having nothing to do with political spending. Content of prayers? REALLY? And when people provided the answers the IRS wanted, they would come back with even more onerous questions. It is insane. It is very obvious what is going on.

Conservatives “just coincidentally” getting audited within 30 days of making a large donation to Mitt Romney? People getting audited within 30 days of being reported to the “flag” email address? People being harassed by other government agencies? They aren’t making this up, there is a paper trail here.

Have you ever lived in Chicago? That is exactly how things are done there. So where is the DNC now located and who staffs it now?

The entire federal government is now acting like the Chicago city government. But I suppose in a way it is all “irrelevant” because come the next election we can kick these bastards out of office. We can strip the federal government and state governments and local governments clean of these rotten, corrupt, thieves. Again, this is less about Barack Obama and more about an entire political party that has been taken over by the corrupt Chicago machine. This isn’t the Democratic Party of 10 years ago, this is an entirely different animal.

Go ask an “old school” Democrat if they are proud of what their party has become. It’s despicable. It’s corrupt. It’s rotten. No matter how well it manages to cover up its doings. We get to render the final verdict at the voting booth and “We haven’t been arrested yet” isn’t exactly a sustainable party platform.

Interesting…

Misunderstood exasperation–or plausible deniability?

Check out VK’s website. He has an interesting sense of humour, and even if I do not support his politics or his occasional mean spiritedness, he more often than not has interesting, thoughtful, and fun things to say.

As for NDT, I have no idea what he is talking about right now, or how it is related to the conversation; or Jah Jah Binky’s over the top aggressive and totally inappropriate rhetoric for that matter. The fact that NDT supports it in his post, says plenty about NDT. And given that he seems to be skirting a little close to the edge of inappropriate speech himself… it is also, well, sad.

Services AREN’T and cannot be voluntarily. We live in a country. Countries cost money. We have police and many other government services that serve a valid purpose. If a criminal thug murders a poor person who doesn’t have the money to pay for police, I want that criminal arrested. If a criminal thug murders a stupid person who doesn’t want to pay for police, I want that criminal arrested. If a fire starts to burn in the apartment complex next to mine, I want the fire put out, regardless of whether that apartment owner paid for fire protection. Furthermore, if Nazis start to genocide millions of people and tries to take over Europe and supports attacks on the US and/or our allies, I want the Nazis to be defeated, even if some people don’t want to pay taxes. Thus, a lot of people want to get something for free: They would get police, fire, military, and more for free if they were allowed not pay taxes.

Highways are also great because they help the economy and provide a good that lots of people use directly and that everyone uses indirectly or directly. (One of the reasons the highways were created was to make military movements possible in the event of war, but I would argue for them even from an economic standpoint.)

Even the commenter I was originally replying to supporting forcing people to pay taxes. He said there should be a fair tax.

I am not so sure. It takes actual evidence for there to be a long lived scandal and so far there is very little, just lots of speculation, projection and Monday morning QBing of decisions. I hope the GOP does not shoot its wad too quickly. The worst thing to happen is their obsession with bringing down Obama will = election loses in 2014.
It would be a disaster to have unified government in the last years of Obama.

“How lovely! Why you haven’t been banned from this site is a mystery to me.”

While trolling these people is the utmost of fun, there come a point in time in which the best solution is to ignore VtK and NDT.

These are people who support the murder and torture of gays and want to overthrow our gov’t to institute a theocratic regime. While it is disheartening people like this exist you can take solace in the following.

First there is no evidence that the Obama administration has been damaged by this witch-hunt or conspiracy theory. There is no reason to believe that it will. They will throw fits on blogs like this and others, but let them.

Second, despite being ignored by this blog and despite VtK and NDT hopes and dreams the man who killed Mark Carson will be found and brought to justice. They might provide for his defense team, but we live in a civilized world and the murder will go to prison.

Third, again despite being ignored by this blog and VtK and NDT protests, in all likelihood article 3 of DOMA will go down.

So while they are horrible people, while they support the murder of gays, and while they want to overthrow the US, they will fail and their little plots and temper tantrums won’t matter beyond this blog.

That brings a smile to my face, as it should yours.

Jar Jar Binky, thinks I should commit self murder–to go with the threats of physical violence and murder that he has uttered against me in the past. How lovely! Why you haven’t been banned from this site is a mystery to me.

Because, Cas, you and the LGBT community endorse and support telling conservatives to kill themselves.

And you also endorse and support the Barack Obama Party and the Barack Obama administration, which wishes death on conservatives.

Now, Cas, either repudiate the Barack Obama Party and the LGBT community for threatening death and violence against conservatives, or be exposed as demanding of others rules and standards that you won’t follow.

And, Cas, since you won’t follow the laws, you lose their protection.

And since you no longer have their protection, you can be told to kill yourself and have violence threatened against you all day long. We conservatives have recognized the main lesson of violent Islam: if you want liberals and “progressives” to leave you alone, you need to inflict enough pain on them to make them stop.

You don’t like it? Tough. You should have thought of that before you deemed the rules “irrelevant”. You should have thought of that before you supported and endorsed the Obama administration’s lies. You should have thought of that before you decided to support the IRS and the Obama Party targeting and abusing government power against conservatives.

In short, you should have respected and enforced the law equally. But since you won’t, there’s only one option left.

NDT thinks I am screaming. You need to get your hearing checked NDT.

Jar Jar Binky, thinks I should commit self murder–to go with the threats of physical violence and murder that he has uttered against me in the past. How lovely! Why you haven’t been banned from this site is a mystery to me.

Then the Purple Proboscis sniffs out an apparent argumentative problem–prove that it was doctored! Fun.

First things first: “The email has still not been released. ” are you referring to this email? Or some other email? Because, if it was this email, which is the one the Hot Air article was referring to, it looks like it was released. Just saying.

” What Cas Passing Gas is asserting is that ILC is shoveling smoke by using the word “refute.”” No. I am questioning his claim that that Hot AiIr (and by extension, ILC, who believes it did) proved its case.

After all the prognostications and salivation over an email that many on this site believed was the “smoking gun” for a scandal; and with people saying that the “changes” or “doctored” content are irrelevant–he chooses to NOW ask for proof of a position that others on this site implicitly accept as a bone of contention–that the emails were indeed changed, and that they definitely made the WH l& Hilary Clinton look much worse–lordy! Well, you do have a big set, big boy!

Could this have been just a silly little transcription error? Of course! But its kinda interesting to ask what a change in meaning that little “transcription error” made to the meaning of the document and how it just happened to coincide with Republican efforts to push the Benghazi issue up a notch AND attack Hilary Clinton. There is no way you would be arguing like this in your normally partisan way, if this were a Republican scandal and the roles were reversed. So, pardon me for thinking that your argument is just an clumsy attempt to muddy the waters or pass gas… or should that be a purple haze?

Lois Lerner targeted conservative groups when she worked at the FEC in the 1990s.

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/05/20/irs-official-lois-lerner-targeted-conservative-groups-while-working-for-fec/

A sizable conflict of interest arises when unionized employees on the government payroll (paid by the taxpayers) organize to influence the legislative process to benefit themselves in ways that the non government employed taxpayer himself is can not benefit.

The unionized Treasury employees are literally vested in supporting the political entities which deliver rewards to them. While each employee is a free agent in his political support, it is clear the NTEU under its President Collen Kelley is pro-Obama and opposed to many of the principles of the TEA Party.

According to The American Spectator the NTEU has 150,000 members and endorsed Obama in 2008 and 2012 gave hundreds of thousands of dollars in 2010 and 2012 election cycles to “anti-Tea Party candidates.” I have not checked those claims, but government unions in general are neither Republican leaning or pro-small government.

The basic question is pragmatic in nature: Can one assume with strong confidence that a unionized government worker automatically places non-partisan principle above personal benefit? Impartiality is the process of objectivity in which prejudice/bias for or against and interest is not involved.

The skeptic has a great deal of reason to doubt that the overwhelming focus on the Tea-Party by the IRS was not politically motivated.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/20/new-msnbc-theory-maybe-the-irs-commissioner-appointed-by-bush-targeted-tea-partiers-because-theyre-a-threat-to-the-gop/

http://www.today.com/id/37566848/ns/today/t/i-would-have-fired-bp-chief-now-obama-says/%20%85

But V, we all know that not being able to get there is a Bull $hit excuse. Why POTUS said “stand-down” we may never know – but the result of HIS actions are reprehensible and criminal.

No Internal Revenue Service at all nor 1099´s nor any tax forms that we are familiar with. It has had only one hundred years of existence. Paraphrasing an old song; ¨We got along before we met you, we´re going to get along without you now.¨ Now what can be created is a REVENUE RECEIVING AGENCY with no policing or investigating authority. Since the Fair Tax is based on sales. Large Corporations could forward tax collected on monthly basis with a report of sales, medium size businesses on a quarterly basis and small businesses, semi annually also with report of sales. This will be one helluva smaller beauracracy.