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		<title>Comment on The Slow Death of Irony Continues in Colorado by V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2013/05/23/the-slow-death-of-irony-continues-in-colorado/comment-page-1/#comment-758475</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 21:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It requires a HUGE suspension of disbelief to accept that the people who benefited directly from the IRS Investigation of the Tea Party had absolutely nothing to do with it.  Especially when it fits a pattern of political corruption that goes back to the 2008 campaign. 

The Mugabe Regime may well be the most corrupt presidential administration in US history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It requires a HUGE suspension of disbelief to accept that the people who benefited directly from the IRS Investigation of the Tea Party had absolutely nothing to do with it.  Especially when it fits a pattern of political corruption that goes back to the 2008 campaign. </p>
<p>The Mugabe Regime may well be the most corrupt presidential administration in US history.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on the Boy Scouts &amp; gays by North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2013/05/23/thoughts-on-the-boy-scouts-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-758474</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 21:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ted B. is a funny one, Heliotrope.

He decries what liberals have done to society, but he endorses and supports liberalism and antireligious bigotry, such as his fellow LGBT bigots screaming and attacking corporations for funding the BSA.

Perhaps if he recognized that the BSA does a tremendous amount of good, especially when compared to the promiscuous bigoted liberals who are attacking it, he might see the problem with his pronouncements.

The simple fact is this: the BSA is allowing bigots like Dan Savage and Joe Jervis who see children as sexual objects to set their morals and values.

And corporations are stupid enough to allow bigots like Dan Savage and Joe Jervis who see children as sexual objects to dictate their giving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted B. is a funny one, Heliotrope.</p>
<p>He decries what liberals have done to society, but he endorses and supports liberalism and antireligious bigotry, such as his fellow LGBT bigots screaming and attacking corporations for funding the BSA.</p>
<p>Perhaps if he recognized that the BSA does a tremendous amount of good, especially when compared to the promiscuous bigoted liberals who are attacking it, he might see the problem with his pronouncements.</p>
<p>The simple fact is this: the BSA is allowing bigots like Dan Savage and Joe Jervis who see children as sexual objects to set their morals and values.</p>
<p>And corporations are stupid enough to allow bigots like Dan Savage and Joe Jervis who see children as sexual objects to dictate their giving.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on the Boy Scouts &amp; gays by North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2013/05/23/thoughts-on-the-boy-scouts-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-758473</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 20:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;In those days DuPont Chemical, Hercules and the other Wilmington-based corporations covered most of the operating expenses of the entire Council and their summer camps gratis. The DuPont family also contributed both facilities and substantial cash. Now all that support is gone. 

Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — May 24, 2013 @ 12:42 pm - May 24, 2013&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130217/NEWS01/302170056/Wilmington-s-violent-crime-pushes-Delaware-sixth-highest-US&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;And Wilmington is clearly the better for it&lt;/a&gt;.

There&#039;s your lesson: LGBT bigots and pandering to them do nothing to improve a community and quite a bit to destroy it.

That is because LGBT bigots have no interest in WHY the Scouts exist; they just want to destroy them and their values.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In those days DuPont Chemical, Hercules and the other Wilmington-based corporations covered most of the operating expenses of the entire Council and their summer camps gratis. The DuPont family also contributed both facilities and substantial cash. Now all that support is gone. </p>
<p>Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — May 24, 2013 @ 12:42 pm &#8211; May 24, 2013</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130217/NEWS01/302170056/Wilmington-s-violent-crime-pushes-Delaware-sixth-highest-US" rel="nofollow">And Wilmington is clearly the better for it</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s your lesson: LGBT bigots and pandering to them do nothing to improve a community and quite a bit to destroy it.</p>
<p>That is because LGBT bigots have no interest in WHY the Scouts exist; they just want to destroy them and their values.</p>
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		<title>Comment on And still some (journalists) swoon at the mere mention of his name by Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2013/05/23/and-still-some-journalists-swoon-at-the-mere-mention-of-his-name/comment-page-1/#comment-758467</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 19:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; I know most of you would rather not hear from me ever again and don’t care for any of my links. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Finally - Smegmasnatch got something right! Miracles never cease.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; Have a nice weekend.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

That&#039;s &lt;b&gt;Memorial Day Weekend&lt;/b&gt; to you, buster.  Show some respect to our fallen heroes.

Oh, wait - libtards never do.  Silly me.

Regards,
Peter H.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p> I know most of you would rather not hear from me ever again and don’t care for any of my links. </p></blockquote>
<p>Finally &#8211; Smegmasnatch got something right! Miracles never cease.</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p> Have a nice weekend.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s <b>Memorial Day Weekend</b> to you, buster.  Show some respect to our fallen heroes.</p>
<p>Oh, wait &#8211; libtards never do.  Silly me.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>Comment on And still some (journalists) swoon at the mere mention of his name by Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 19:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; I have to admit, it’s kinda nice living in Vince’s head, rent free.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Got to admit, there&#039;s a lot of space up there to stretch out! ;-)

Regards,
Peter H.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p> I have to admit, it’s kinda nice living in Vince’s head, rent free.</p></blockquote>
<p>Got to admit, there&#8217;s a lot of space up there to stretch out! <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>Comment on And still some (journalists) swoon at the mere mention of his name by My Sharia Moor</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Sharia Moor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 19:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to admit, it&#039;s kinda nice living in Vince&#039;s head, rent free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, it&#8217;s kinda nice living in Vince&#8217;s head, rent free.</p>
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		<title>Comment on And still some (journalists) swoon at the mere mention of his name by VS</title>
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		<dc:creator>VS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 18:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S. I know most of you would rather not hear from me ever again and don&#039;t care for any of my links.  But, I promise you, you will enjoy the above link.  Have a nice weekend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I know most of you would rather not hear from me ever again and don&#8217;t care for any of my links.  But, I promise you, you will enjoy the above link.  Have a nice weekend.</p>
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		<title>Comment on And still some (journalists) swoon at the mere mention of his name by VS</title>
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		<dc:creator>VS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 18:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boyculture.com/boy_culture/2013/05/inotracist-humor.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This is for My Sharia Moor&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re welcome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.boyculture.com/boy_culture/2013/05/inotracist-humor.html" rel="nofollow">This is for My Sharia Moor</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on the Boy Scouts &amp; gays by Texann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 18:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heliotrope, depends on where you live. In our master planned community of about 3000 families, we have two elementaries and two seperate boy scout troops. They still march in parades and are very active. My son was friends with several Eagle Scouts. There are two scout camps within 90 minutes of here that are heavily used by the cub scouts in the Houston area.
 My oldest did cub scouts but didn&#039;t want to stay in boy scouts and my youngest did tiger cubs but that was it. Mostly they learned their skills because they have a highly invested dad. From their dad, they learned everything from hunting, gutting and cleaning their own deer to changing brake pads. Electrical capabilities like changing  a light switch. Sheet rocking, fencing, painting (more from me) practical skills that will save them a fortune over their life time if not save their lives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heliotrope, depends on where you live. In our master planned community of about 3000 families, we have two elementaries and two seperate boy scout troops. They still march in parades and are very active. My son was friends with several Eagle Scouts. There are two scout camps within 90 minutes of here that are heavily used by the cub scouts in the Houston area.<br />
 My oldest did cub scouts but didn&#8217;t want to stay in boy scouts and my youngest did tiger cubs but that was it. Mostly they learned their skills because they have a highly invested dad. From their dad, they learned everything from hunting, gutting and cleaning their own deer to changing brake pads. Electrical capabilities like changing  a light switch. Sheet rocking, fencing, painting (more from me) practical skills that will save them a fortune over their life time if not save their lives.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on the Boy Scouts &amp; gays by heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 18:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;It was only in the late 80s and the 90s that it became an issue as the Fundamentalists and Evangelicals took control….all to the detriment of the program and the Movement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Cause and effect might be bolstered by some facts.

As I read this, (1.) the BSA was taken over by the Fundamentalists and Evangelicals in the Bush 41 and Clinton years.

(2.) The takeover of the BSA was detrimental to the BSA program and the Movement.

(3.) The Fundamentalists and Evangelicals made homosexuality a major issue of the BSA.

Now, while this Fundamentalist and Evangelical drive to make homosexuality in the BSA program and Movement was occurring, was there any increase in the homosexual world to confront Fundamentalists and Evangelicals in general? That is to say, was there a heightened gay voice or response to the Fundamentalist and Evangelicals during this period that was not associated with the BSA?

My curiosity is piqued. Since Fundamentalists and Evangelicals are being fingered as the &quot;cause&quot; of the decline of the BSA program and Movement, it there any concomitant activity on the part of militant (fundamentalist) and activist (evangelical) gays in promoting their program and Movement to snare all sorts of people in the trap of homophobia, including the BSA?

So far, this alleged take-over of the BSA does not present enough fact to be accepted as a thesis statement to explain how the gay issue resulted in the decline of the BSA.

I have heard elsewhere that activists, with activist gays among them, stuck their fingers in the BSA and made charges that the BSA should not receive federal funds and tax exemptions because of their emphasis on religion, being morally straight and other parts of their oath and belief system that irritated atheists, gays and professional malcontents.

I don&#039;t make that a direct cause and effect statement. I merely pose the issue as another point of view.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It was only in the late 80s and the 90s that it became an issue as the Fundamentalists and Evangelicals took control….all to the detriment of the program and the Movement.</p></blockquote>
<p>Cause and effect might be bolstered by some facts.</p>
<p>As I read this, (1.) the BSA was taken over by the Fundamentalists and Evangelicals in the Bush 41 and Clinton years.</p>
<p>(2.) The takeover of the BSA was detrimental to the BSA program and the Movement.</p>
<p>(3.) The Fundamentalists and Evangelicals made homosexuality a major issue of the BSA.</p>
<p>Now, while this Fundamentalist and Evangelical drive to make homosexuality in the BSA program and Movement was occurring, was there any increase in the homosexual world to confront Fundamentalists and Evangelicals in general? That is to say, was there a heightened gay voice or response to the Fundamentalist and Evangelicals during this period that was not associated with the BSA?</p>
<p>My curiosity is piqued. Since Fundamentalists and Evangelicals are being fingered as the &#8220;cause&#8221; of the decline of the BSA program and Movement, it there any concomitant activity on the part of militant (fundamentalist) and activist (evangelical) gays in promoting their program and Movement to snare all sorts of people in the trap of homophobia, including the BSA?</p>
<p>So far, this alleged take-over of the BSA does not present enough fact to be accepted as a thesis statement to explain how the gay issue resulted in the decline of the BSA.</p>
<p>I have heard elsewhere that activists, with activist gays among them, stuck their fingers in the BSA and made charges that the BSA should not receive federal funds and tax exemptions because of their emphasis on religion, being morally straight and other parts of their oath and belief system that irritated atheists, gays and professional malcontents.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t make that a direct cause and effect statement. I merely pose the issue as another point of view.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spike of Gay-Bashings in NYCcity whose mayor seeks to limit our means of self-defense by Lori Heine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori Heine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 18:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#113 -- Perhaps the reaction has been the same in both camps, or perhaps the libertarians simply get tired, after a while, of trying to explain THEIR position to YOU and then hearing it grotesquely distorted back at them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#113 &#8212; Perhaps the reaction has been the same in both camps, or perhaps the libertarians simply get tired, after a while, of trying to explain THEIR position to YOU and then hearing it grotesquely distorted back at them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This morning&#8217;s Obama scandal news by ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 17:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget &quot;If you notice what&#039;s wrong in how the administration is handling these scandals, you&#039;re a liar&quot; which he used on me recently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget &#8220;If you notice what&#8217;s wrong in how the administration is handling these scandals, you&#8217;re a liar&#8221; which he used on me recently.</p>
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		<title>Comment on And still some (journalists) swoon at the mere mention of his name by pst314</title>
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		<dc:creator>pst314</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 17:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3. The_Livewire &quot;There are already shield laws, rules and regulations this administration ignored, mike.&quot;

And not just regarding journalism. The Left has strongly approved of Obama ignoring Constitutional limits on his power. Only when liberal journalists find themselves in the crosshairs does the tune change. Funny, that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3. The_Livewire &#8220;There are already shield laws, rules and regulations this administration ignored, mike.&#8221;</p>
<p>And not just regarding journalism. The Left has strongly approved of Obama ignoring Constitutional limits on his power. Only when liberal journalists find themselves in the crosshairs does the tune change. Funny, that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on And still some (journalists) swoon at the mere mention of his name by V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 16:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At least he dropped the &quot;phony as Pam Anderson&#039;s t-ts&quot; concern troll act.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least he dropped the &#8220;phony as Pam Anderson&#8217;s t-ts&#8221; concern troll act.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Slow Death of Irony Continues in Colorado by North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 16:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love how the Mugabe bootlicker mike tries pushing a lie that is so obviously one, when you consider that &lt;a href=&quot;http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/18/obama-for-america-to-morph-into-organizing-for-action/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Barack Obama&#039;s political organization&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-05-16/politics/39310148_1_tax-exempt-status-foundation-application&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Barack Obama&#039;s brother&#039;s shady charity&lt;/a&gt; both clearly had no questioning whatsoever.

Don&#039;t worry, mike; again, we know you won&#039;t answer. You aren&#039;t mentally or morally capable of admitting that your Barack Obama, your Barack Obama Party, and your unionized Federal workforce that overwhelmingly discriminates against and harasses conservatives did anything wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how the Mugabe bootlicker mike tries pushing a lie that is so obviously one, when you consider that <a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/18/obama-for-america-to-morph-into-organizing-for-action/" rel="nofollow">Barack Obama&#8217;s political organization</a> and <a href="http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-05-16/politics/39310148_1_tax-exempt-status-foundation-application" rel="nofollow">Barack Obama&#8217;s brother&#8217;s shady charity</a> both clearly had no questioning whatsoever.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, mike; again, we know you won&#8217;t answer. You aren&#8217;t mentally or morally capable of admitting that your Barack Obama, your Barack Obama Party, and your unionized Federal workforce that overwhelmingly discriminates against and harasses conservatives did anything wrong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on And still some (journalists) swoon at the mere mention of his name by North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 16:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The USA needs a strong 4th estate to keep the sunlight on government actions. Hopefully congress can pass a shield law to give protections to journalists and ensure they can continue to dig into the government actions.

Comment by mike — May 24, 2013 @ 12:51 am - May 24, 2013&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because, of course, a &quot;shield law&quot; will be observed by Barack Obama, when none of the other EXISTING laws to this effect were.

Don&#039;t worry, mike, we know you won&#039;t reply. Like V the K put it, you&#039;re Mugabe&#039;s bootlicker, mentally and morally incapable of holding your Obama to the same standards you demand of others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The USA needs a strong 4th estate to keep the sunlight on government actions. Hopefully congress can pass a shield law to give protections to journalists and ensure they can continue to dig into the government actions.</p>
<p>Comment by mike — May 24, 2013 @ 12:51 am &#8211; May 24, 2013</p></blockquote>
<p>Because, of course, a &#8220;shield law&#8221; will be observed by Barack Obama, when none of the other EXISTING laws to this effect were.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, mike, we know you won&#8217;t reply. Like V the K put it, you&#8217;re Mugabe&#8217;s bootlicker, mentally and morally incapable of holding your Obama to the same standards you demand of others.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on the Boy Scouts &amp; gays by Ted B. (Charging Rhino)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted B. (Charging Rhino)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 16:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; Sit back and watch the numbers of those involved in the Boy Scouts to decline dramatically over the coming years.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
More likely the reverse.  

The &quot;no gays allowed&quot; rule has been a major reason behind the already dramatic decline in membership in the BSA as many Mainline Protestant Churches and public schools closed-down the Scout troops in protest or refuse to be complicit.  And the BSA lost billions in donations of cash and in-kind corporate donations due to their newly-exclusionary practices over the last 20-years.  Most of corporate America---especially publically traded corporations--- will not touch the BSA any more.  By comparison, when I was in the BSA in the 60s and 70s, we did a lot of activities with the Delaware Delmarva Council through my father&#039;s business connections even though we were in NJ.  In those days DuPont Chemical, Hercules and the other Wilmington-based corporations covered most of the operating expenses of the entire Council and their summer camps &lt;i&gt;gratis&lt;/I&gt;.  The DuPont family also contributed both facilities and substantial cash.  Now all that support is gone.  Now the individual Scouts&#039; families have to pay hugely-increased fees to attend camp.

Here in my own town, all three Protestant churches closed-down their troops a decade ago, and only the RC Church&#039;s troop struggles for members.

By politicizing the BSA, they have transformed it into an &quot;exclusionary organization&quot; that is no longer welcome or tolerated in places that were it&#039;s traditional homes...and alienated many of it&#039;s traditional supporters.  Now a business-owner thinks twice before openly giving support or money to the BSA for fear of offending someone.  

When I was in Scouting the reverse was true, to NOT SUPPORT the Boy Scouts was seen as unpatriotic, un-American and suspect.

I believe the numbers are that current BSA membership is 1/10th that of when I was active in the 1960s and 1970s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p> Sit back and watch the numbers of those involved in the Boy Scouts to decline dramatically over the coming years.</p></blockquote>
<p>More likely the reverse.  </p>
<p>The &#8220;no gays allowed&#8221; rule has been a major reason behind the already dramatic decline in membership in the BSA as many Mainline Protestant Churches and public schools closed-down the Scout troops in protest or refuse to be complicit.  And the BSA lost billions in donations of cash and in-kind corporate donations due to their newly-exclusionary practices over the last 20-years.  Most of corporate America&#8212;especially publically traded corporations&#8212; will not touch the BSA any more.  By comparison, when I was in the BSA in the 60s and 70s, we did a lot of activities with the Delaware Delmarva Council through my father&#8217;s business connections even though we were in NJ.  In those days DuPont Chemical, Hercules and the other Wilmington-based corporations covered most of the operating expenses of the entire Council and their summer camps <i>gratis</i>.  The DuPont family also contributed both facilities and substantial cash.  Now all that support is gone.  Now the individual Scouts&#8217; families have to pay hugely-increased fees to attend camp.</p>
<p>Here in my own town, all three Protestant churches closed-down their troops a decade ago, and only the RC Church&#8217;s troop struggles for members.</p>
<p>By politicizing the BSA, they have transformed it into an &#8220;exclusionary organization&#8221; that is no longer welcome or tolerated in places that were it&#8217;s traditional homes&#8230;and alienated many of it&#8217;s traditional supporters.  Now a business-owner thinks twice before openly giving support or money to the BSA for fear of offending someone.  </p>
<p>When I was in Scouting the reverse was true, to NOT SUPPORT the Boy Scouts was seen as unpatriotic, un-American and suspect.</p>
<p>I believe the numbers are that current BSA membership is 1/10th that of when I was active in the 1960s and 1970s.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on the Boy Scouts &amp; gays by Ted B. (Charging Rhino)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted B. (Charging Rhino)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 16:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the first 90-yrs the BSA and the Scouting Movement didn&#039;t care about &quot;homosexuality&quot; other than in instances of predatory behavior.  It was only in the late 80s and the 90s that it became an issue as the Fundamentalists and Evangelicals took control....all to the detriment of the program and the Movement.

As a Cub Scout up through Boy Scouts to Asst Scoutmaster while in college, and as someone&#039;s who&#039;s family was involved in Scouting for over 50 continuous-years from the 1930s through the 80s, it&#039;s shameful what the &quot;novel&quot; introduction of institutional homophobia has done to a once proud and useful organization.  It has no place in traditional Scouting and I&#039;m glad to see it at-least partially repealed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the first 90-yrs the BSA and the Scouting Movement didn&#8217;t care about &#8220;homosexuality&#8221; other than in instances of predatory behavior.  It was only in the late 80s and the 90s that it became an issue as the Fundamentalists and Evangelicals took control&#8230;.all to the detriment of the program and the Movement.</p>
<p>As a Cub Scout up through Boy Scouts to Asst Scoutmaster while in college, and as someone&#8217;s who&#8217;s family was involved in Scouting for over 50 continuous-years from the 1930s through the 80s, it&#8217;s shameful what the &#8220;novel&#8221; introduction of institutional homophobia has done to a once proud and useful organization.  It has no place in traditional Scouting and I&#8217;m glad to see it at-least partially repealed.</p>
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		<dc:creator>in_awe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 16:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wasn&#039;t there testimony this week that during the period conservative groups&#039; applications were being slow-walking and denied, that no liberal group&#039;s application was subjected to the same delay or denial? Were liberal groups subject to a review? Sure. Were any subject to the &quot;special review&quot; to the same degree as conservative groups? No.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t there testimony this week that during the period conservative groups&#8217; applications were being slow-walking and denied, that no liberal group&#8217;s application was subjected to the same delay or denial? Were liberal groups subject to a review? Sure. Were any subject to the &#8220;special review&#8221; to the same degree as conservative groups? No.</p>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of swooning, mikey&#039;s fellow bootlickers at MSNDC &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jammiewf.com/2013/msnbc-clowns-gush-over-obama-speech-todays-speech-was-an-important-historic-moment/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fell over themselves in gushing praise for Mugabe&#039;s nothingburger terrorism change-the-subject speech&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;blockquote&gt;    “Today, the president gave one of those speeches — an Obama speech. One of those signature speeches by this person at this moment in history that somehow rise up out of normal politics and address a taboo with an uncommon level of frankness and clarity and nuance.” — MSNBC’s Christopher Hayes

    “Today’s speech was an important historic moment. It was a speech worthy of a man who has won the Nobel Peace Prize.” – MSNBC’s Al Sharpton

    “This is a big historic speech. This is a turning point for the way America talks about its role in the world.” - MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow

    “It was, I believe, the kind of presidential leadership many of us applaud. It probably helps I agree with everything the president said today.” - MSNBC’s Chris Matthews&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of swooning, mikey&#8217;s fellow bootlickers at MSNDC <a href="http://www.jammiewf.com/2013/msnbc-clowns-gush-over-obama-speech-todays-speech-was-an-important-historic-moment/" rel="nofollow">fell over themselves in gushing praise for Mugabe&#8217;s nothingburger terrorism change-the-subject speech</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>    “Today, the president gave one of those speeches — an Obama speech. One of those signature speeches by this person at this moment in history that somehow rise up out of normal politics and address a taboo with an uncommon level of frankness and clarity and nuance.” — MSNBC’s Christopher Hayes</p>
<p>    “Today’s speech was an important historic moment. It was a speech worthy of a man who has won the Nobel Peace Prize.” – MSNBC’s Al Sharpton</p>
<p>    “This is a big historic speech. This is a turning point for the way America talks about its role in the world.” &#8211; MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow</p>
<p>    “It was, I believe, the kind of presidential leadership many of us applaud. It probably helps I agree with everything the president said today.” &#8211; MSNBC’s Chris Matthews</p></blockquote>
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