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		<title>Comment on Meanwhile, at Obama&#8217;s EPA. . . by Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2013/05/18/meanwhile-at-obamas-epa/comment-page-1/#comment-757663</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 19:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would guess the EPA is pretty small potatoes compared to the IRS scandal, BUT the one thing a breaking EPA scandal could do is to make it harder for anyone to argue that the IRS scandal was initiated by a few rogue agents.  I certainly don&#039;t believe that IRS agents, especially anyone a few levels down from the top, were the ones who came up with the idea to discriminate against conservatives or leak their info, but obviously there are plenty of people in the press and a lot of low-information voters who are willing to believe that (or, at least argue that, even if they know it&#039;s crap).  If there&#039;s compelling evidence that the EPA discriminated against conservatives, it sounds a lot more silly to argue that low-level EPA agents AND low-level IRS agents both randomly decided to go rogue against conservatives without the encouragement of someone higher up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would guess the EPA is pretty small potatoes compared to the IRS scandal, BUT the one thing a breaking EPA scandal could do is to make it harder for anyone to argue that the IRS scandal was initiated by a few rogue agents.  I certainly don&#8217;t believe that IRS agents, especially anyone a few levels down from the top, were the ones who came up with the idea to discriminate against conservatives or leak their info, but obviously there are plenty of people in the press and a lot of low-information voters who are willing to believe that (or, at least argue that, even if they know it&#8217;s crap).  If there&#8217;s compelling evidence that the EPA discriminated against conservatives, it sounds a lot more silly to argue that low-level EPA agents AND low-level IRS agents both randomly decided to go rogue against conservatives without the encouragement of someone higher up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In 2008, we told you Obama wasn&#8217;t the man you (thought you) were voting for. . . by crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 18:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got a kick out of Judge Pirro&#039;s monologue here.  Says her mom could do a better job than Obama, and I believe her.

Thing is, I don&#039;t think Obama is really in charge.  I believe the Democrats have built some sort of politburo somewhere that is setting the tone of things and clearing decisions through a political lens and not from the position of running a government.

Obama and Holder know nothing about Fast and Furious or AP record confiscation.  Obama and Hillary know nothing about Benghazi.  Obama knows nothing about the IRS scandal or the coming EPA scandal.  Nobody knows anything about anything.  They are coming off like they are completely incompetent.  But if you buy that, exactly who IS coordinating all of these decisions?  You can&#039;t be completely incompetent yet be so consistent on so many ways across so many different parts of the government.  

It seems to me that they have quite possibly set up a government within a government of political operatives who are setting the tone on policy decisions.  I believe that for the AP confiscation, Obama was advised to spike that football by someone else.  I also believe that when that was foiled by the AP going public with the story hours before Obama was to do it, that same group advised DoJ to confiscate the records and retaliate against the leakers.  A simple way to tell if that holds water is to look at when the confiscation was ordered.  Was it ordered before AP released the story or after?  If they were concerned about the leak, they would have ordered the records be obtained when they first learned that the AP had the story.  If they were concerned about the political ramifications, they would have ordered the confiscation when AP published the story.

The Benghazi talking points follows the same patter.  Who was really looking over the shoulders of the government operators involved? Do we have political operatives who aren&#039;t subject to the same transparency laws calling the shots?

http://www.therightscoop.com/judge-jeanine-pirro-rips-the-obama-administration-in-another-fantastic-monologue/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a kick out of Judge Pirro&#8217;s monologue here.  Says her mom could do a better job than Obama, and I believe her.</p>
<p>Thing is, I don&#8217;t think Obama is really in charge.  I believe the Democrats have built some sort of politburo somewhere that is setting the tone of things and clearing decisions through a political lens and not from the position of running a government.</p>
<p>Obama and Holder know nothing about Fast and Furious or AP record confiscation.  Obama and Hillary know nothing about Benghazi.  Obama knows nothing about the IRS scandal or the coming EPA scandal.  Nobody knows anything about anything.  They are coming off like they are completely incompetent.  But if you buy that, exactly who IS coordinating all of these decisions?  You can&#8217;t be completely incompetent yet be so consistent on so many ways across so many different parts of the government.  </p>
<p>It seems to me that they have quite possibly set up a government within a government of political operatives who are setting the tone on policy decisions.  I believe that for the AP confiscation, Obama was advised to spike that football by someone else.  I also believe that when that was foiled by the AP going public with the story hours before Obama was to do it, that same group advised DoJ to confiscate the records and retaliate against the leakers.  A simple way to tell if that holds water is to look at when the confiscation was ordered.  Was it ordered before AP released the story or after?  If they were concerned about the leak, they would have ordered the records be obtained when they first learned that the AP had the story.  If they were concerned about the political ramifications, they would have ordered the confiscation when AP published the story.</p>
<p>The Benghazi talking points follows the same patter.  Who was really looking over the shoulders of the government operators involved? Do we have political operatives who aren&#8217;t subject to the same transparency laws calling the shots?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.therightscoop.com/judge-jeanine-pirro-rips-the-obama-administration-in-another-fantastic-monologue/" rel="nofollow">http://www.therightscoop.com/judge-jeanine-pirro-rips-the-obama-administration-in-another-fantastic-monologue/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Jesus, on tax collectors by Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 18:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enjoyable post, Jeff.

I would say that the difference between IRS agents and the tax collectors of Jesus&#039; time was that the ancient tax collectors were basically able to defraud people by demanding more than was owed the government and personally enriching themselves enough to be conspicuously wealthy.  We can complain---as I do---about excessive benefits to government employees, but IRS agents are not able to personally enrich themselves the same was as Zacchaeus could.  You could say that they join what clearly is to me a corrupt system that abuses its power, but I don&#039;t think that makes them personally corrupt in the same way the ancient tax collectors were.

My aunt recently retired from the IRS.  Since then, she has moved back to Minnesota to take care of my grandma, who has mid-stage Alzheimer&#039;s.  She is a person of immense love and character, and I think most IRS agents are basically this way, even if they might not quite rise to the level of my aunt.

This may make it sound as if I&#039;m minimizing the IRS scandal.  I&#039;m not.  I&#039;m actually fuming mad about it and want to see the investigations leave no stone unturned until we have all the answers and know who was responsible.  And it does appear to me that a number of IRS employees at various levels were indeed utterly corrupt.  As for the Obama administration, I&#039;ll wait to see what the investigations turn up although it would be an understatement to say I don&#039;t trust that they are at all innocent.  I do hope though that we as conservatives can separate our appropriate indignation for the IRS and other dysfunctional, corrupt, and bloated bureaucratic government agencies and for the Obama administration from our feelings for decent individuals who happen to work for agencies like the IRS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyable post, Jeff.</p>
<p>I would say that the difference between IRS agents and the tax collectors of Jesus&#8217; time was that the ancient tax collectors were basically able to defraud people by demanding more than was owed the government and personally enriching themselves enough to be conspicuously wealthy.  We can complain&#8212;as I do&#8212;about excessive benefits to government employees, but IRS agents are not able to personally enrich themselves the same was as Zacchaeus could.  You could say that they join what clearly is to me a corrupt system that abuses its power, but I don&#8217;t think that makes them personally corrupt in the same way the ancient tax collectors were.</p>
<p>My aunt recently retired from the IRS.  Since then, she has moved back to Minnesota to take care of my grandma, who has mid-stage Alzheimer&#8217;s.  She is a person of immense love and character, and I think most IRS agents are basically this way, even if they might not quite rise to the level of my aunt.</p>
<p>This may make it sound as if I&#8217;m minimizing the IRS scandal.  I&#8217;m not.  I&#8217;m actually fuming mad about it and want to see the investigations leave no stone unturned until we have all the answers and know who was responsible.  And it does appear to me that a number of IRS employees at various levels were indeed utterly corrupt.  As for the Obama administration, I&#8217;ll wait to see what the investigations turn up although it would be an understatement to say I don&#8217;t trust that they are at all innocent.  I do hope though that we as conservatives can separate our appropriate indignation for the IRS and other dysfunctional, corrupt, and bloated bureaucratic government agencies and for the Obama administration from our feelings for decent individuals who happen to work for agencies like the IRS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did the IRS ask progressive groups the same kind of intrusive questions they asked of Tea Party groups?  (And if not, why not?) by V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 18:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And where have lower case mike, Passing By, and all the other Obama boot-licks been this week? This was a good chance for them to either defend their beloved Marxist Messiah, or express outrage and demonstrate that they aren&#039;t mind-numbed cultists after all; But they&#039;ve been as absent as references to the political party in MFM stories about Democrats arrested for corruption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where have lower case mike, Passing By, and all the other Obama boot-licks been this week? This was a good chance for them to either defend their beloved Marxist Messiah, or express outrage and demonstrate that they aren&#8217;t mind-numbed cultists after all; But they&#8217;ve been as absent as references to the political party in MFM stories about Democrats arrested for corruption.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In 2008, we told you Obama wasn&#8217;t the man you (thought you) were voting for. . . by EssEm</title>
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		<dc:creator>EssEm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 18:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice one, V.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one, V.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In 2008, we told you Obama wasn&#8217;t the man you (thought you) were voting for. . . by V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 18:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just going to start calling him Barack Hussein Mugabe; the low information voters probably won&#039;t get it, but it fits him like a glove.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just going to start calling him Barack Hussein Mugabe; the low information voters probably won&#8217;t get it, but it fits him like a glove.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In 2008, we told you Obama wasn&#8217;t the man you (thought you) were voting for. . . by Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 18:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still not sure they are seeing him as he really is today. I&#039;m seeing excuses and of course - it&#039;s all the Republicans fault.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still not sure they are seeing him as he really is today. I&#8217;m seeing excuses and of course &#8211; it&#8217;s all the Republicans fault.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In 2008, we told you Obama wasn&#8217;t the man you (thought you) were voting for. . . by Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 17:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This brings to mind the Lemony Snicket stories, where the kids recognize the malevolent Count Olaf for who he is and try to warn the adults, but the adults can&#039;t see through Count Olaf&#039;s disguises.  Plenty of conservatives tried to warn everyone else about who Barack Obama was and is, but people just didn&#039;t want to listen.  Even now, I don&#039;t think a lot of people are open to considering just how much of a BS artist the president is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This brings to mind the Lemony Snicket stories, where the kids recognize the malevolent Count Olaf for who he is and try to warn the adults, but the adults can&#8217;t see through Count Olaf&#8217;s disguises.  Plenty of conservatives tried to warn everyone else about who Barack Obama was and is, but people just didn&#8217;t want to listen.  Even now, I don&#8217;t think a lot of people are open to considering just how much of a BS artist the president is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In 2008, we told you Obama wasn&#8217;t the man you (thought you) were voting for. . . by EssEm</title>
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		<dc:creator>EssEm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 17:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Were he not Black, he&#039;d never be where he is. He is symptomatic of a deep-seated illness in the American mind and soul.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were he not Black, he&#8217;d never be where he is. He is symptomatic of a deep-seated illness in the American mind and soul.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did the IRS ask progressive groups the same kind of intrusive questions they asked of Tea Party groups?  (And if not, why not?) by North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 16:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly, Dan.

It&#039;s amazing how the IRS&#039;s &quot;incompetence&quot; and &quot;not understanding the rules&quot; only manifested itself when dealing with groups that were not committed to Barack Obama and Barack Obama&#039;s agenda.

Which means Barack Pbama and the New York Times are lying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, Dan.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how the IRS&#8217;s &#8220;incompetence&#8221; and &#8220;not understanding the rules&#8221; only manifested itself when dealing with groups that were not committed to Barack Obama and Barack Obama&#8217;s agenda.</p>
<p>Which means Barack Pbama and the New York Times are lying.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did the IRS ask progressive groups the same kind of intrusive questions they asked of Tea Party groups?  (And if not, why not?) by B. Daniel Blatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Daniel Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 16:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, John in#1, fixed.

V the K, seems like once again the Obama team&#039;s excuse for wrongdoing is incompetence.

Amazing that the Times could even buy that excuse.  If it was understaffed, as per this post, how did overburdened workers then find the time to craft the questions referenced above -- or to expect to have the time to review the answers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, John in#1, fixed.</p>
<p>V the K, seems like once again the Obama team&#8217;s excuse for wrongdoing is incompetence.</p>
<p>Amazing that the Times could even buy that excuse.  If it was understaffed, as per this post, how did overburdened workers then find the time to craft the questions referenced above &#8212; or to expect to have the time to review the answers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did the IRS ask progressive groups the same kind of intrusive questions they asked of Tea Party groups?  (And if not, why not?) by Acethepug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acethepug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 16:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup, pretty much let them steal the election, since many people will not donate to a group until and unless they know they can deduct it.

The next time a Leftist insists there is no voter fraud, remind them of the IRS playing politics to get Obama re-elected ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, pretty much let them steal the election, since many people will not donate to a group until and unless they know they can deduct it.</p>
<p>The next time a Leftist insists there is no voter fraud, remind them of the IRS playing politics to get Obama re-elected &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did the IRS ask progressive groups the same kind of intrusive questions they asked of Tea Party groups?  (And if not, why not?) by V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 16:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The New York Times leaps to Dear Reader&#039;s defense: &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitchy.com/2013/05/18/new-york-times-finds-irs-office-an-unprepared-understaffed-outpost-with-no-direction/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IRS Office was understaffed and didn&#039;t understand th rules&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New York Times leaps to Dear Reader&#8217;s defense: <a href="http://twitchy.com/2013/05/18/new-york-times-finds-irs-office-an-unprepared-understaffed-outpost-with-no-direction/" rel="nofollow">IRS Office was understaffed and didn&#8217;t understand th rules</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did the IRS ask progressive groups the same kind of intrusive questions they asked of Tea Party groups?  (And if not, why not?) by Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 10:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent question.  Let&#039;s hope some Congressman/woman is asking it, in a forceful manner and in front of a camera, very soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent question.  Let&#8217;s hope some Congressman/woman is asking it, in a forceful manner and in front of a camera, very soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Pat Robertson understand what marriage is for? by Donny D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donny D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 09:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Protestant fundamentalism is male supremacist.  So it never surprises me when one of its adherents spouts &quot;boys will be boys&quot; rhetoric.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Protestant fundamentalism is male supremacist.  So it never surprises me when one of its adherents spouts &#8220;boys will be boys&#8221; rhetoric.</p>
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		<dc:creator>tommy651</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 09:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Did the IRS ask progressive groups the same kind of intrusive questions they asked of Tea Party groups?  (And if not, why not?) by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 08:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Headline typo: &#039;act&#039; vs &#039;ask&#039;]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Before Obama, did IRS ever ask for names of teenage* interns? by GayPatriot &#187; Did the IRS act progressive groups the same kind of intrusive questions they asked of Tea Party groups? (And if not, why not?)</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2013/05/16/before-obama-did-irs-ever-ask-for-names-of-teenage-interns/comment-page-1/#comment-757628</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Did the IRS act progressive groups the same kind of intrusive questions they asked of Tea Party groups? (And if not, why not?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 07:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Meanwhile, at Obama&#8217;s EPA. . . by Catseye</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2013/05/18/meanwhile-at-obamas-epa/comment-page-1/#comment-757615</link>
		<dc:creator>Catseye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 02:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EPA is the bad one there are a lot of micro wars going on in the enviro community like the one with bird lovers versus the wind farms . Wind farms for those who aren&#039;t aware kill a lot of birds on a regular basis and many of them are from endangered species. Then there&#039;s the way the wind farms get a pass on dead birds and oil companies do not. Upshot is a lot of the information the EPA and Enviro communities have been kept out of the public&#039;s awareness are beginning to bubble thru. When they find out the EPA has been aiding and abetting the killing of eagles and condors and other species I don&#039;t think the public is going to be in a forgiving mood. Like the song says &quot;No where to run to, No where to hide&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EPA is the bad one there are a lot of micro wars going on in the enviro community like the one with bird lovers versus the wind farms . Wind farms for those who aren&#8217;t aware kill a lot of birds on a regular basis and many of them are from endangered species. Then there&#8217;s the way the wind farms get a pass on dead birds and oil companies do not. Upshot is a lot of the information the EPA and Enviro communities have been kept out of the public&#8217;s awareness are beginning to bubble thru. When they find out the EPA has been aiding and abetting the killing of eagles and condors and other species I don&#8217;t think the public is going to be in a forgiving mood. Like the song says &#8220;No where to run to, No where to hide&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scandal central?  Or a whole lot of talk that will amount to nothing? by Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2013/05/17/scandal-central-or-a-whole-lot-of-talk-that-will-amount-to-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-757610</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 00:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cjorach: I wouldn&#039;t say I&#039;m &quot;mouthing words of defeat,&quot; I&#039;m just trying to be pragmatic.  And if, in the present environment, it isn&#039;t likely to succeed, then those who pursue impeachment (for example) as a result of the scandals are likely to expend a lot of energy at potentially great cost to them, and those who hope for a resignation are likely to be disappointed by an administration which will use every dirty trick and tool at its disposal to hold on to power.

I think ILC and Crosspatch make great points about the scandals still being a moving target.  I particularly like Jeff&#039;s suggestion about making it more about liberty vs. tyranny, since that&#039;s a theme that the Tea Party coalesced around in 2009, and it may help to emphasize those themes with these recent examples in mind in the interest of a). winning more converts to our way of thinking, and b). bringing about substantive and worthwhile changes.

I asked the question mainly because after last fall&#039;s election, the way forward still isn&#039;t always evident to me.  I know that we must not cede anything to this corrupt administration and its allies on the left, but that is mostly a defensive strategy.  The question for me is one of knowing which offensive maneuvers and strategies are most likely to bring about the most positive consequences.  The scandals offer a big opportunity to gain ground, but pursuing an overly aggressive strategy might backfire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cjorach: I wouldn&#8217;t say I&#8217;m &#8220;mouthing words of defeat,&#8221; I&#8217;m just trying to be pragmatic.  And if, in the present environment, it isn&#8217;t likely to succeed, then those who pursue impeachment (for example) as a result of the scandals are likely to expend a lot of energy at potentially great cost to them, and those who hope for a resignation are likely to be disappointed by an administration which will use every dirty trick and tool at its disposal to hold on to power.</p>
<p>I think ILC and Crosspatch make great points about the scandals still being a moving target.  I particularly like Jeff&#8217;s suggestion about making it more about liberty vs. tyranny, since that&#8217;s a theme that the Tea Party coalesced around in 2009, and it may help to emphasize those themes with these recent examples in mind in the interest of a). winning more converts to our way of thinking, and b). bringing about substantive and worthwhile changes.</p>
<p>I asked the question mainly because after last fall&#8217;s election, the way forward still isn&#8217;t always evident to me.  I know that we must not cede anything to this corrupt administration and its allies on the left, but that is mostly a defensive strategy.  The question for me is one of knowing which offensive maneuvers and strategies are most likely to bring about the most positive consequences.  The scandals offer a big opportunity to gain ground, but pursuing an overly aggressive strategy might backfire.</p>
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