“It is often called “bunker mentality” which is the sense of self-justification, defensiveness and being overwhelmed by the weight of losing control. Spinmeisters only exist to control the narrative. Therefore, spinmeisters resort to knee-jerk reactions when the truth threatens them.” Yes, your response to my initial comment shows this “bunker mentality” very well.

Jman1961, “It really bothers you, doesn’t it?”

It doesn’t bother me that you haven’t been banned, as yet. What bothers me is that you think it is OK to offer threats of violence to people; that other commentators on this site can listen to you doing so and think it is OK; and that no action is taken by moderators of this site when you do.

What Cas Passing Gas likely can neither see nor understand (when shown) is how desperate one looks when one resorts to nit-picking as the primary diversion to avoid confronting the actual issue at hand. It is often called “bunker mentality”

It’s called “parsing the murder of 4 Americans”.

Leave to a vile, despicable hunk of dogs**t like Cas-h*le to engage in it.

Typical.

That brings a smile to my face, ….

Comment by JP*ssy2006 — May 21, 2013 @ 1:31 am

Smile while you can, because things are about to change……..

My belief is that they don’t dare fire her, because if she started talking, it would be over for them.

Why you haven’t been banned from this site is a mystery to me.

It really bothers you, doesn’t it?

Good!

Services AREN’T and cannot be voluntarily. We live in a country. Countries cost money.

No sane person would suggest that any government operate on donations.

As a strict, fiscal conservative, I fully support a system of compulsory taxation in order promote the very general welfare which includes roads, defense, safe drinking water, education, police, fire departments, sewage systems, and other fundamental signs of living in a civilized and advanced society.

There is no need to argue about funding primary functions through compulsory taxation.

Now, I also believe that if you can not pay taxes from your government provided housing with your food stamp fed body that you can provide your labor as an exchange for what the working taxpayers send your way by way of the welfare system. (Somehow, I imagine you see that as some kind of slavery.)

As I write this: “The SenateJudiciary Committee voted Monday to allow illegal immigrants who get legal status to begin collecting tax-welfare payments, as the panel spent a fourth day working through amendments to the massive immigration bill and party-line splits began to emerge.”

We who pay taxes are forced (compulsory) to pay more and more taxes for ever more micro management of our lives and the lives of others.

It is hardly surprising that those who pay little or no taxes are among the loudest in defending the system of wealth transfer and increasing the “free stuff” from “Obama’s stash.”

Perhaps you are a wealthy and heavily taxed individual who is giddy-happy to pay compulsory taxes without reservation. May I point out that you are free to send additional donations to the Treasury? Knock yourself out.

Indeed, Republicans would have been foolish to seriously doctor e-mails that the White House at any moment could have released (and eventually did). Clearly, of course, Republicans would put their own spin on what the e-mails meant, as they did in the House report. Given that the e-mails were almost certain to leak once they were sent to Capitol Hill, it’s a wonder the White House did not proactively release them earlier.

In the comments in the link at #56:

10:23 AM EDT
There really should be an investigation into who doctored the relevant emails. Evidence tampering is not something that should be taken lightly.

The Republicans may claim to love the Bible but they seem to have difficulty understanding the “Thou shall not bear false witness part.”

Isn’t it amazing how the talking points Progressive will drive the bus over what they didn’t want to know and just stay focused on the talking points?

Cas Passing Gas decided that ILC needed to be taken to the woodshed over his use or misuse of the word refute rather than attend to actual issue.

So, out of irascibility, I laid the “doctored” claim back on Cas Passing Gas in the spirit of turnabout being fair play and all that kindergarten level debate shifting that Cas Passing Gas plays as high dudgeon and superiority domination.

Not being invested in all the permutations of the shielded email story, I may have been mistaken about its final disposition in terms of whether it has been released or not. That is a distinction without a difference, however when it comes to “who doctored the e-mails.” The issue is what is meant or even implied when one claims “doctoring.”

So far, Cas Passing Gas is perfectly content to be pompously spurious in ignoring the tacit understanding urged by repeating the claim of “doctoring.”

We all know that the general meaning of “doctoring” an email is to alter it, to change it, to falsify it. The WaPo fact checker takes this meaning when he asserts: Indeed, Republicans would have been foolish to seriously doctor e-mails that the White House at any moment could have released (and eventually did).

Just to be clear, the WaPo fact checker is stating that emails “doctored”, meaning altered, by the Republicans would be immediately exposed when compared with the original emails.

But the spin game is so embedded in the ideologically driven minds of many Progressives that one commenter to the WaPo story says: There really should be an investigation into who doctored the relevant emails. Proof positive that “damn the facts, that’s my story and I am sticking to it” always trumps logic, reason and precision.

“Doctored” = Mary Mapes, Bill Burkett, Dan Rather and “false, but accurate.” The chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Terry McAuliffe, suggested that the memos might have originated with long-time Bush strategist Karl Rove. and so forth.

Grasping at straws is how straw men are built.

What Cas Passing Gas likely can neither see nor understand (when shown) is how desperate one looks when one resorts to nit-picking as the primary diversion to avoid confronting the actual issue at hand. It is often called “bunker mentality” which is the sense of self-justification, defensiveness and being overwhelmed by the weight of losing control. Spinmeisters only exist to control the narrative. Therefore, spinmeisters resort to knee-jerk reactions when the truth threatens them.

As for NDT, I have no idea what he is talking about right now, or how it is related to the conversation; or Jah Jah Binky’s over the top aggressive and totally inappropriate rhetoric for that matter. The fact that NDT supports it in his post, says plenty about NDT. And given that he seems to be skirting a little close to the edge of inappropriate speech himself… it is also, well, sad.

Comment by Passing By — May 21, 2013 @ 3:05 am – May 21, 2013

It’s called demanding that you piety dance, Cas.

You screamed and ranted about violence in speech and telling people to kill themselves and demanded that conservatives piety-dance and condemn it.

You got provided the opportunity to condemn it yourself from your fellow bigots in the Obama Party.

And you flunked.

So since you won’t condemn violent speech and telling people to kill themselves when it comes from the Obama Party, you don’t deserve the same courtesy being extended to you.

And since you clearly support and endorse telling conservatives to kill themselves, the same can and should be thrown back at you.

As I mentioned, Cas, conservatives have long since figured out that bigots like you and JPerry2006 do not respect courtesy, civility, or standards; indeed, you openly take advantage of them to steal from and harm people.

Hence you no longer shall receive the benefit of all three. You shall be treated as a a malicious liar like your Obama, a tax cheat like your Obama, and a violent murderer who wishes conservatives were dead like your Obama’s Dan Savage and Michelangelo Signorile.

Is that clear?

The Republican Party couldn’t organize a pissing contest in a beer tent, but suddenly they’re the masters of conspiracy? WTF?

And if JPerry2006 were so concerned about peoples’ lives, he and his fellow liberal gays might actually take the time to be more careful, instead of getting children sick at a rate twice that of sub-Saharan Africa.

Not to mention, as I pointed out, that JPerry2006 and the Barack Obama Party openly call for conservatives to be killed, especially gay conservatives.

When you keep all that in mind, the fact that JPerry2006 is a violent bigot who hides behind his sexual orientation is obvious to all. Not even the anti-conservative bigot Cas wants to be associated with JPerry2006′s obvious instability and hate.

LOL.

Furthermore, as the IRS scandal shows, Mitch and his Obama Party believe that tax enforcement and having to follow the tax laws are solely dependent on political affiliation.

Which demonstrates quite nicely that Mitch and his fellow Obama supporters do not want to pay their taxes; instead, they want “services” at other peoples’ expense.

I wonder if Mitch is man enough to come back and answer for why his Obama Party supports tax cheats and why his Obama Party uses the IRS to punish and harass conservatives while ignoring tax fraud being committed by Obama supporters?

As we traveled the public hallways of the building – watched over by security cameras – an armed uniformed police officer with the Federal Protective Service followed us. We were looking for a particular office—of someone who would not want to be seen talking to reporters–but chose to bypass it because of our official babysitter.

Asked why we were being escorted in a public building, the officer identified himself as Insp. Mike Finkelstein and said he was only trying to make sure that the newsmen were not a “nuisance.” He brushed aside further questions. The cop said a supervisor would call to explain.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/05/20/has-an-iron-curtain-descended-on-the-cincinnati-irs-office/

What conservatives object to is funding a massive and inefficient Government bureaucracy that does things that are much better done in the private sector or not at all. We object to funding a massive public education system that fails our kids and denies choices to parents. We object to funding regulatory bureaucracies that impose massive costs on business and achieve little if any public benefit. We object to funding bloated, corrupt welfare systems that entrap people in dependency and that we can no longer afford We object to the growing police state, where the Department of Education has its own SWAT Teams that they deploy against … student loan debtors. (WTF) We object to funding a Government so huge and corrupt it can be, and has been, used to attack political opponents of the administration. We object to the crony socialism of the Obama regime sending billions of dollars to favored enterprises owned by wealthy donors and propping up Wall Street to the tune of $85 Billion a month. We object to subsidizing a higher education system that is bloated, expensive, and out of touch with the culture and values of middle America.

It takes actual evidence for there to be a long lived scandal

The letters and questionnaires sent by the IRS are what is called “actual evidence”. We have actual evidence that the IRS was asking the most detailed possible questions about things having nothing to do with political spending. Content of prayers? REALLY? And when people provided the answers the IRS wanted, they would come back with even more onerous questions. It is insane. It is very obvious what is going on.

Conservatives “just coincidentally” getting audited within 30 days of making a large donation to Mitt Romney? People getting audited within 30 days of being reported to the “flag” email address? People being harassed by other government agencies? They aren’t making this up, there is a paper trail here.

Have you ever lived in Chicago? That is exactly how things are done there. So where is the DNC now located and who staffs it now?

The entire federal government is now acting like the Chicago city government. But I suppose in a way it is all “irrelevant” because come the next election we can kick these bastards out of office. We can strip the federal government and state governments and local governments clean of these rotten, corrupt, thieves. Again, this is less about Barack Obama and more about an entire political party that has been taken over by the corrupt Chicago machine. This isn’t the Democratic Party of 10 years ago, this is an entirely different animal.

Go ask an “old school” Democrat if they are proud of what their party has become. It’s despicable. It’s corrupt. It’s rotten. No matter how well it manages to cover up its doings. We get to render the final verdict at the voting booth and “We haven’t been arrested yet” isn’t exactly a sustainable party platform.