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We condemn racists – and violent socialists

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Racism is stupid and wrong.

Violating others’ rights to their own life, liberty and property is stupid and wrong.

Therefore, slavery is stupid and wrong. Discrimination is stupid and wrong. Crime is stupid and wrong. Tyranny/dictatorship is stupid and wrong. And socialism is stupid and wrong.

We condemn and disavow the racist, criminal and/or tyrannical beliefs and actions that manifest among neo-Nazis, KKK, white identitarians, any of the #WhiteLivesMatter types of U.S. citizens.

We condemn the racist, criminal and/or tyrannical beliefs and actions that manifest among the Antifa, #BlackLivesMatter or any other left-wing types of U.S. citizens.

We condemn and disavow criminal violence wherever it manifests, whether among Alt Left demonstrators, Alt Left nutcases (like that guy who shot up Congress), Alt Right demonstrators, or Alt Right nutcases (like that guy who rammed his car at counter-demonstrators).

To the extent that they can keep it non-violent, we support both the Alt Left and Alt Right in exercising their First Amendment right to demonstrate. However stupid or offensive their statements may seem.

We support Liberty under the Rule of Law, including the First Amendment. #AllLivesMatter

We note that the Democrat party is the party of institutional and historical racism in the U.S. And the party of socialism. As such, we call upon all Democrats to disavow the violence and bigotry that manifest among the Antifa and #BlackLivesMatter types of people; which, at present, most Democrats are busy denying or excusing.

In a saner world, all of the above statements would be obvious and non-controversial. Perhaps not even needing to be said.

Triggering the media

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I keep hearing that the media is heavily filtering President Trump’s comments yesterday. So let’s get a bit closer to the real thing.

Trump says why his statements on Charlottesville were the right statements, in the right way at the right time. A triggered melee of voices strives to interrupt him.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3AtP2ohdvo[/youtube]

[before the extract above] “I didn’t wait long. I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct…It takes awhile to get the facts. You still don’t know [all] the facts.”

“I think the driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family and his country. You can call it terrorism, you can call it murder… The driver of the car is a murderer, and what he did is a horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing.”

“Senator McCain? You mean, the one who voted against Obamacare [replacement]? The one who voted against us getting good health care?”

“What about the Alt Left, that came charging at the Alt Right? …They came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging. Do they have any problem? I think they do… That was a horrible day…You had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. And nobody wants to say that, but I’ll say it right now. You had a group on the other side that came charging in, without a permit, and they were very violent.”

“This week, it’s [protesting a traditional statue of] Robert E. Lee. I notice that Stonewall Jackson’s coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week? And is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop?”

“You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and it was a horrible thing to watch…I think there’s blame on both sides, and I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either, and if you reported it accurately, you would say it.”

“George Washington was a slave owner. So, will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down statues of him? How about Thomas Jefferson? …You’re changing history, you’re changing culture, and you had people – I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people [who just wanted to keep the traditional statue], and the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also [who wanted the statue to come down], you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers…with the baseball bats.”

“There are two sides to a story. I thought that what took place was a horrible moment for our country.”

UPDATE: Added some highlighting, to help the cognitively-blind.

The one thing that I would regret in the above, is that President Trump should (and didn’t yet) call for a universal, national pledge against political violence, that Left and Right alike would be required to take – if they want to be regarded as moral or responsible.

The media (like CNN) and the Democrats must be made to disavow the violence and bigotry of Antifa and #BlackLivesMatter.

Having the Right disavow the violence and bigotry of the #WhiteLivesMatter types is easy, a small price to pay, something that I’m happy to do. Because anyone who believes in tradition or God or liberty for real will know instinctively that #AllLivesMatter. (Plus the fact that the #WhiteLivesMatter types are crypto-leftists anyway.)

A new frenzy in the push to overturn the 2016 election

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In the wake of Charlottesville on Saturday, President Trump said things like this (from various news articles):

We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides, on many sides. It’s been going on for a long time in our country. There’s no place in America (for this). What is vital now is a swift restoration of law and order and the protection of innocent lives.

We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. We must remember this truth: No matter our color, creed, religion or political party, we are ALL AMERICANS FIRST.

It’s exactly what needs saying. Because Antifa and #BlackLivesMatter are at least as bigoted and violent (and probably more so) than the detestable #WhiteLivesMatter types who marched in Charlottesville. All Americans should condemn all bigoted violence from all sides, because #AllLivesMatter.

Nonetheless, the Controlled Media and the Left (but I repeat myself) were furious, claiming that Trump had somehow *not* denounced white supremacists. Because he hadn’t done so “by name”, or something. Do you see the game, here? No matter what he says: complain. Keep claiming it’s not enough.

How do we know that’s the game? Because, as of this morning, Trump went even farther:

President Trump delivered a statement from the White House on Monday explicitly condemning violent white supremacists.

“Racism is evil,” Trump said from the White House Diplomatic Room. “And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

“As I have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws,” the president said. “We all salute the same great flag. And we are all made by the same almighty God.”

And is it enough for them, now? Of course it isn’t. You’ll never guess the new complaint:

In his statement Monday, Trump did not use the word “terrorism” to describe the car attack in Charlottesville.

That’s right: NOW, all the sudden, the media/Left luuuuuuuvv the word “terrorism” and want to see it used. Joining the pile-on are longtime Trump opponents who really should know better:

“It’s very important for the nation to hear @potus describe events in #Charlottesville for what they are, a terror attack by #whitesupremacists,” Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., tweeted.

OK, suppose Trump calls it terrorism. What happens next? They’ll come up with a new line of attack. This game is endless, it’s empty, and it’s only a new chapter in the Establishment’s effort to de-legitimize Trump and overturn the 2016 election.

It also shows the Establishment’s (and the Left’s – but I repeat myself) spectacular hypocrisy. Again, Antifa and #BlackLivesMatter are at least as bigoted and violent as the groups whom Trump condemned today. But the Establishment/Left won’t condemn those groups and don’t want their own hypocrisy and bigotry (in refusing to condemn) to be highlighted.

For dessert: This video shows that Trump called out David Duke as “a bigot, a racist, a problem, this is not exactly the people you want”…Years ago. He went there, he did that, long ago.

Antifa and #WhiteLivesMatter deserve each other

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#WhiteLivesMatter is the term I’ll use here for the conglomeration of different “white identitarian”, “white nationalist”, “alt-Right”, “KKK”, “neo-Nazi” or “neo-Confederate” people who marched together in Charlottesville, VA on Saturday – and got into fights/riots with Antifa-type counter-marchers.

Gov. Terry McAullife declared a state of emergency shortly before 11 a.m. ET, moments before the rally was scheduled to begin at noon at Emancipation Park in Charlottesville, according to a tweet sent from the Democratic governor’s Twitter account. Using megaphones, police declared an unlawful assembly at about 11:40 a.m., and gave a five-minute warning to leave Emancipation Park, where hundreds of neoNazis, Ku Klux Klans members and other white nationalists had gathered to protest the removal of a Confederate statue. They were met by equal numbers of “counterprotesters,” including Black Lives Matter activists…

Apparently, the detestable Richard Spencer was there, got sucker-punched and/or maced, and that set off some of the melee. Several people reported other attacks by the BLM/Antifa side. Most horribly, someone from the #WhiteLivesMatter side drove a car into the BLM/Antifa crowd and injured people. (It’s unclear to me, how much related these incidents may be.) And two State police were killed in a helicopter crash.

Here’s my overall take.

  • Robert E. Lee is one of the important and fairly-honorable figures in American history; traditional statues of him either should not, or at least need not, be taken down. As such, the #WhiteLivesMatter types may have a point on that one, little issue.
  • Having said that: I run with #AllLivesMatter. I have no problem denouncing white nationalism or white ethnic identitarianism (like I did, here). Especially if the people turn violent. I hereby denounce it again.
  • And of course, I denounce Antifa and #BlackLivesMatter, especially if they turn violent.
  • An ideal outcome might be if any/all of those who committed crimes Saturday, on either side, will have to spend some jail time together. Paired in cells, if possible.
  • To the extent that many people (on either side) did NOT commit any crimes and expressed themselves peacefully: Kudos. Although, again, I probably don’t agree on many issues with either side.
  • President Trump has condemned hatred, bigotry and violence coming from any side…whoa, looks like I agree with Trump again! How does that keep happening?

P.S. The Controlled Media and the Left (but I repeat myself) are much to blame for what happened today, because they have pretty consistently failed to denounce Antifa, BLM, or violence coming from the Left. (Unlike we on the liberty-loving #AllLivesMatter Right, who have no problem denouncing violence from any or all sides.)

When the Left won’t properly stigmatize or denormalize violence from lefties, then both violent lefties and their krazier #WhiteLivesMatter type of opponents are going to feel agitated, and these fights will break out easily.

As always, feel free to post your take in the comments.